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Students rally against ex-Muslim speaker

By Katie Farden

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Published: Wednesday, November 4, 2009

Updated: Thursday, November 5, 2009

Members of Seattle University’s Muslim community have been gathering signatures on a petition since Monday to voice their resentment over the university hosting author Nonie Darwish last week.

Darwish, a former Muslim who renounced Islam for Christianity and tours the nation speaking out against radical Islam and Sharia law, spoke at Seattle University Thursday.
Event organizers maintain they brought Darwish to campus to foster discussion about human rights issues and conflict in the Middle East.

“The idea of a university is to exchange ideas,” said Gracie Cohen, a sophomore pre-major who publicized Darwish’s talk.

Some students, however—who said Darwish spreads falsehoods and undue fear about Islam—demonstrated at the event. Members of Seattle U’s Muslim Student Association plan to bring their grievances to President Stephen Sundborg, S.J.

“We believe hosting a person like Nonie on the SU campus is contrary to all of the values upon which this institution is founded,” said Ahmed Alnafie, former president of, MSA.

Darwish is the author of three books: "Now They Call Me Infidel; Why I Renounced Jihad for America, Israel and the War on Terror,” "Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying Global Implications of Islamic Law” and “Obsession: Radical Islam's War against the West.”

“The message she carries is a message of hatred and defamation to Islam,” Alnafie said.

Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America—a nonpartisan media-monitoring organization formed in 1982 that focuses on decreasing anti-Israel bias in mainstream news—sponsored the event. Cohen, a CAMERA intern, publicized Darwish’s appearance at Seattle U through e mails and flyers.

Darwish—whose father was an Egyptian lieutenant general killed by Israeli Defense Forces when she was 8 years old—has appeared on CNN, MSNBC, BBC and Fox News. She has spoken at universities including Harvard, Brown and Georgetown.
Some of the students who attended the talk Thursday said they questioned Darwish’s credentials.

“If she had used the Quran to support any of her claims, she would have had some substance,” said Nabiha Pirbhai, junior international business major and MSA President.

Instead, Pirbhai said, Darwish based much of her lecture on “Reliance of a Traveler,” a manual of Islamic law.

“She did not come [to Seattle U] for any scholarly purpose,” Alnafie said.

Saeed Al Harbi, a senior e-commerce and information systems major, echoed Alnafie’s thoughts.

“It was horrible,” Al Harbi said. “She was giving wrong, misleading information about my religion.”

Many students who arrived in Bannan to hear Darwish speak Thursday were unreceptive to her, Cohen said. Public Safety received a report of a heated argument in the building.
“The majority of the audience came in hostile.” Cohen said. “She couldn’t get though half a sentence.”

Cohen said when she returned to clean up after the event, she found all of the CAMERA magazines and pamphlets she had displayed on the table for audience members were in the recycling bin.

Members of MSA passed out a handout listing short statements Darwish has made on Islam. They also distributed DVDs about the five pillars of Islam and other basics of the religion, Pirbhai said.

Al Harbi said he and other Muslim students purposefully interrupted Darwish when they thought she said something that misrepresented the religion.

He said he worried non-Muslims in the audience would walk away from the talk with a skewed perception of the religion.

“I’m OK with her criticizing Islam,” Al Harbi said, “but she was throwing out lies to people that don’t understand the situation.”

Alnafie echoed his concern.

“One of my fears is that for many of the people there—that this would be the extent of their experience of Islam.”

Pirbhai said MSA will hold a meeting Thursday to discuss future steps. She estimates 25 students have signed the petition.

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23 comments

SuALumni'99
Wed Dec 30 2009 15:15
WTF is Islamic people doing at a Jesuit University to start out with? If you don't like it, GTFO! This is a private school and it's self regulated. Simple as that. I don't get it really why Muslims are attending a Jesuit school and disagreeing with its approach. And you all don't accept Jesus as your savior but accept teachings of a man who claims he saw Gabriel. WTF? Bigotry.
al
Fri Dec 4 2009 18:27
i was a muslim befor . but no`t any mor
C.R. Usaider
Wed Dec 2 2009 03:23
The only good Ummah is Thurman. Get over it. A spiritually immature doctrine meets a spiritually mature religion's university: the 800s meets 2,009 Anno Domini.
Your name
Sat Nov 28 2009 08:42
If bringing in hate-mongering speakers is "freedom of speech" then when will Seattle U. bring in the head of the KKK to tell us how blacks are sub-human, or an extremist Mormon to preach about the damnation of all Catholics? There is a fine line between freedom of speech and promoting hate groups. I believe Seattle U. failed in this case to realize that Nonie crosses the line and is in the hate-mongering category. This is the time for inter-faith communication, buidling of bridges, and for the moderates of all sides to take the lead, leaving the fanatic members of all religions to destroy themselves.
Name Withheld to Avert Hate Crime
Thu Nov 12 2009 18:02
To "skay"- Do not bother to "explain" that" Islam started with the sword" because all RELIGIOUS scholars who have studied the subject in a scholarly in depth manner (yes, in the west) know and confirmed (over & over again b/c of uneducated Fox News audience & the like who talk without extensive research) that Islam did not spread by war. Why not give specific historic accounts w/ dates and places? If you did you will find that the story is very similar to current Iraq. Who is in who's house now? Are these "college" scholars who speak like Rush Limbaugh who is a reactive biased hate monger? Why not give peace a chance O! ye Children of Israel? Quraan does address the "Children Of Israel" in the most ernest manner for good reason. What is CAMERA up to? From The Noble Quraan: "Say this to them who solicit arguments w/ you - To you, your religion to me, my religion".
chelsea
Sun Nov 8 2009 19:06
when will people remember that "free speech" doesn't mean that you are free to say anything without anyone disagreeing with you and trying to speaking out against that which they find offensive? the first amendment allowing for free speech only refers to prohibiting congress from making laws that infringe upon that right. i think people are taking this too far and generalizing all muslims with the radicals within that Islam. just calm down.
skay
Fri Nov 6 2009 21:11
To Seattle U almni and interfaith activitst. My simple message to you : Islam started with sword, killing and war 1500 years ago, if Islam were to start with the same concept at present time the whole world and you would agree with Nonie's writing : Islam must be resisted and contained.
Your name
Fri Nov 6 2009 12:53
Way to attempt to shut down free speech! Why do I think that if some "famous" muslim were to be scheduled and a protest ensued, muslims would be saying that their civil rights were being abused. Can't have it both ways.
Sarah
Thu Nov 5 2009 13:40
Its funny how in-closet racists always find online websites to spew their nasty bigotry. I guess hiding behind a screen emboldens the spineless.
Your name
Thu Nov 5 2009 08:38
Whether Muslim, Christian or Jew, as citizens of the leading and the only "superpower" of the world we need to embrace all religions and should not encourage activities that will stir resentment and unhappiness among our peaceful population. Whether be Christian, Jew or Muslim, we all believe in the scripture. Regardless what God is called, the basics are the same. The USA stands for Justice and Freedom for all as we have proven to the world in our last Presidential elections. This is the only way we will remain strong as the beacon of civilization.
We know the sensitivity of Muslims towards their God/Prophets, as we know the sensitivity of Jews towards antisemitism. These boundaries are sacred and we should respect that. A Professor speaking for antisemitism looses his/her job in USA, we must show the same care to protect our fellow Muslims. That should be the most effective way to strengthen our nation on its battle against terrorism.
abdul hadi bin mikail
Thu Nov 5 2009 00:59
There seems to be some confusion about the role of free speech here, as there is in general about the origins of democratic ideals. To those of us who know our history, and the role of Islam in the very formation of academia, there should be no question as to the strength of free expression. I agree with John-Otto Liljenstolpe. Only within discussion can motives be made manifest. You can never change the mind of a bigot, as their fear and hatred is irrational.
Signing a petition stating that you find a speaker offensive is another form of free speech. I don't believe anyone would jump to conclusions about the motivation of an Jewish student group circulating a petition of resentment if a Neo-Nazi group came to speak. I find it amusing how some comments have managed to stray so far off topic.
Jim
Wed Nov 4 2009 22:27
To all you freedom of speech hating moslims....if you don't like for the truth to be known, then I suggest you reserve
a flight on Camel Hump Airlines...one way to the moslim country of your choice.
We don't need you here creating problems for all of us freedom loving americans.
Islam is what it is...a false and radical Jim Jones style religion. If Nonie Darwish wants to speak her mind on Islam,
then she should have right without coercion or threats.
Go Nonie.
No Dhimmi
Wed Nov 4 2009 20:45
"In her book, Cruel and Unusual Punishment, Nonie writes that Islam is a "sinister force" that must be resisted and contained." Yep, she's right. And Muslim fanatics trying to stop her from speaking only prove her point. Go away!! Go live in a Muslim state and leave us alone to our FREE SPEECH.
No Dhimmi
Wed Nov 4 2009 20:41
The message Islam carries is one of hatred and defamation of ME and all other true human beings.
MadMoSucks
Wed Nov 4 2009 20:32
"What steps will be taken to ensure that hate-mongers are not brought on campus under the cover of "free speech"? " When are they going to ban the MSA? Islam is hate speech!
John-Otto Liljenstolpe
Wed Nov 4 2009 18:41
I still am of the opinion that being aware of much of what Ms. Darwish would be saying, the Muslim Student Association and others who oppose the aims of CAMERA would have better servered their interests by allowing the lady to speak without interuption and then having people who were prepared to answer the various charges she made against Islam to systematically and rationally disprove each misrepresentation. Good conversations to the that end occurred in the hallway after the presentation. Next time the SU community has to deal with such attacks, I hope it occurs during the meeting itself so that the propagandistic nature of the presentation is exposed for all to hear and see.
Echo That
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:38
How much was Nonie paid for her hate-speech at SU? She normally charges $2k to $4k+. And who paid for her visit? How does bringing a career bigot to spread falsehoods about a vulnerable minority group contribute to a harmonious campus environment? How does this work to address the spike in anti-Muslim hate crimes (murders, arsons, beatings, etc.) this year in the Northwest and across the US? Does SU agree with CAIR, the nation's largest Muslim civil rights group, that the mainstreaming of anti-Muslim rhetoric is a possible cause of this? What steps will be taken to ensure that hate-mongers are not brought on campus under the cover of "free speech"? Will there be an interfaith dialogue for the student body with credible sources of information about all faiths to inform students of the various faith represented on campus? Seattle U administration should be asked these questions by the student body and alumni. I would encourage secular and interfaith campus organizations to work along with the MSA on this issue. Lastly, the public deserves accurate information about Islam. Please visit www.whyislam.org or call 1877-Why-Islam
Whistler
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:37
"Interfaith activist"? Hardly, you're a Moslem, practiciing "taqiyya" (lies sanctioned in the Koran that Moslems are encouraged to tell when feeling under threat and which are meant to present a positive, and false, view of Islam). There is no other 'religion' which has such a doctrine sanctioning lies. As for crimes against Moslems increasing, that is outright fabrication and is not supported by FBI figures on crimes; it is crimes against Jews and Christians, by Moslems, which has increased in the US and worldwide. Re CAIR, that organization was named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Federal Government's successful case against the Holy Land Foundation, the financially largest such case in US legal history, which found that Foundation to be engaging in the collection of funds used for terrorism. That is no surprise, given that Zakat, deliberately misnamed as 'alms-giving, is intended primarily, according to Koran 9:60 for use to those who "fight in the way of Allah" (the Mujahidun) which always refers (in over 700 mentions in the ahadith of Bukhari and Muslim and in hundreds of references in the Koran itself) to Jihad, the purpose of which is to islamicize the world either through violent means (the warriors, the mujahidun, the most exalted form of jihad) or through such da'wa (false inter-faith activities) as you are engaging in. Also, CAIR's founders were members of the Muslim Brotherhood and stated in CAIR's "An Explanatory Memo on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America, dated May 22, 1991, that the organization "must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions."
aramkr
Wed Nov 4 2009 16:04
Islam cannot survive reasoned discourse, which is why anywhere it is scrutinized muslims go batty with indignation and turn to thuggery and violence.
TexasRedbud
Wed Nov 4 2009 15:57
The hostility shown to this speaker is exactly the same hostility that is shown any infidel who does not buy the "Religion of Peace" lie. God help us if there are ever enough Muslims here to give them the confidence they have middle eastern countries.






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